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NPC Voice Types
Often people will say something like, "This will be true for any NPC with Voicetype (Gender-Characteristic)." However, there is no clear online resource for looking up an NPC's voicetype. It was not until I opened the Creation Kit that I found such information at last. Might the "Other Information" section of NPC pages be expanded to include a line for Voicetype, with fill-ins from CK thanks to your bot? Additionally, a corresponding Voicetype page could serve as a handy reference index. Thanks! Lottery Discountz (talk) 18:33, 24 January 2013 (GMT)
- While that should be fairly easy to do, the question is whether or not it's desirable. Some people have complained that the infoboxes are getting to be a bit overwhelming with the amount and complexity of information. I'll bring it up on the Community Portal and see what people say.
- Also, while it takes some digging and isn't quite as user-friendly as the wiki, CSList has the voice type listed in the "NPC_" records. – Robin Hood (talk) 19:20, 24 January 2013 (GMT)
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- Motherlode, thanks for that link! So, while the it's easy through CSList to see what voice a particular NPC has (and also what lines correspond to that voice type, bonus!), just having a Category page for Voicetype would fill the converse need of finding who matches n voice. With that additional page you wouldn't necessarily have to expand the infobox. Lottery Discountz (talk) 19:39, 24 January 2013 (GMT)
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- That seems to be the way the CP discussion is leaning as well. – Robin Hood (talk) 19:57, 24 January 2013 (GMT)
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- While I'm here, I just wanted to say that I haven't forgotten this, but since this isn't really urgent, rather than do the job with some missing info (where there are non-trivial character templates/lists), I thought I'd develop my code a little further to finally handle both regular characters and deeply templated characters/lists. I got the basic concept for it done about a week ago, but haven't had time recently to go back and finish the job. Hopefully within the next week or two, though. – Robin Hood (talk) 06:24, 12 February 2013 (GMT)
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Ore Links
Oblivion:Ore Veins is basically orphaned. Many place pages need links to Oblivion:Silver Vein and Oblivion:Gold Vein to be inserted. I imagine this might be easier to do with a bot. —Legoless (talk) 20:23, 24 January 2013 (GMT)
- If it's just the numeric ones in the treasure lists, that's easy, since they follow a clear pattern and the style on place pages is to link them every time. If you're talking about ones in the actual text, like "the many silver and gold veins" of Abandoned Mine, that's more of a challenge, since the text can vary and you have to be careful not to overlink. I can do the former quite easily, though, so for the sake of my sanity, I'll get to work on that later tonight assuming that's what you meant. :) – Robin Hood (talk) 02:58, 25 January 2013 (GMT)
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Tamriel Rebuilt page sorting
Right now, all of the Tamriel Rebuilt pages (except for quests... I did all those by hand, and books because they are sorted differently) sort under T for Tamriel. The easiest way (I think) to fix this is to have a bot add {{DEFAULTSORT:{{SUBPAGENAME}}}}
to all the pages, at the very top, before the infobox :). If there are any cases that shouldn't be just the subpage name (names starting with 'The' for example) I can go through later and fix all those by hand. :) Thanks in advance!! Jeancey (talk) 23:14, 29 January 2013 (GMT)
- The bot should be able to handle most of the "The", "A", and "An" pages without much difficulty. It might be a couple of days before I can get to this, though, and I'll want to double-check with Alfwyn whether we're planning on fixing the sorting using PHP or if we should go ahead and use DEFAULTSORT. I remember talking with him about it, I just don't remember if we came to any decisions. – Robin Hood (talk) 23:44, 29 January 2013 (GMT)
- Kk good to know. Jeancey (talk) 23:48, 29 January 2013 (GMT)
- Oh, also, since they are all in the Tes3Mod:Tamriel Rebuilt namespace, do they really need the "Added by Plug-in Tamriel Rebuilt" param in their infoboxes? I mean, we don't have "Added by Plug-in Dragonborn" on those pages. If they aren't needed, could they be removed? Jeancey (talk) 23:54, 29 January 2013 (GMT)
- About a php fix, that won't affect pages that have a manual DEFAULTSORT added anyway. I don't think that we would want to add code especially for "Tamriel Rebuilt" into the server. I guess the cleanspace issue may actually be a general mediwiki bug about categories defined in an extension tag (doesn't make sense for most of them anyway), so adding the DEFAULTSORT at the very top of the page is the safest thing for now. --Alfwyn (talk) 00:05, 30 January 2013 (GMT)
- Okay, we'll go that route then, Alfwyn. As far as the "added by" thing, it's a bit more arguable in this case, since we're dealing with a generic Tes3Mod namespace that's not TR3 specific. Conceivably, we might start hosting other mods in that namespace, though at this point, I think that's rather unlikely. I'd be curious to hear what others think about that. Might be something to ask on the TR3 and Stirk talk pages. I'll do that in an hour or so if no one beats me to it or comes up with some overwhelming reason to keep or remove them. – Robin Hood (talk) 01:47, 30 January 2013 (GMT)
- About a php fix, that won't affect pages that have a manual DEFAULTSORT added anyway. I don't think that we would want to add code especially for "Tamriel Rebuilt" into the server. I guess the cleanspace issue may actually be a general mediwiki bug about categories defined in an extension tag (doesn't make sense for most of them anyway), so adding the DEFAULTSORT at the very top of the page is the safest thing for now. --Alfwyn (talk) 00:05, 30 January 2013 (GMT)
- Oh, also, since they are all in the Tes3Mod:Tamriel Rebuilt namespace, do they really need the "Added by Plug-in Tamriel Rebuilt" param in their infoboxes? I mean, we don't have "Added by Plug-in Dragonborn" on those pages. If they aren't needed, could they be removed? Jeancey (talk) 23:54, 29 January 2013 (GMT)
- Kk good to know. Jeancey (talk) 23:48, 29 January 2013 (GMT)
(←) I know they aren't in separate namespaces, but if all of them are a subpage of Tes3Mod:Tamriel Rebuild, I don't think it's necessary to have the added by tag, but if we had a mod header for them instead (just the icon at the top of the page). Silence is GoldenBreak the Silence 02:05, 30 January 2013 (GMT)
- Okay, this is off and running now. With a total of 4554 pages that require checking, this will take quite a while. I've tried to account for the various templates that set DEFAULTSORT inside them, so hopefully this should only change those pages that actually need it. The check is quite primitive, so there may be a couple we'll need to alter by-hand. As always, don't hesitate to post to the bot's talk page if you see that I've goofed on something that affects a large number of pages. The job could well take 6+ hours, so I obviously won't be monitoring it closely for that entire time. I've set it up to resume from a specific point quite easily, in case we need to. – Robin Hood (talk) 23:45, 2 February 2013 (GMT)
- Does it account for articles like "The" in the name? Or should those still be done manually? Jeancey (talk) 00:02, 3 February 2013 (GMT)
- It handles "A", "An", and "The" correctly and should use hard-coded names instead of {{SUBPAGENAME}} for those. It seems most of them have been done already, though, which is why you won't see them in its edit history. – Robin Hood (talk) 00:07, 3 February 2013 (GMT)
- There is also one other issue I ran into the other day. If a page is included on another (like Light armor is included on Armor) then the pages that are included need |noreplace}} added to the default sort template. Those are so few, though, that I can probably do them later by hand (as well as any new pages). Jeancey (talk) 00:14, 3 February 2013 (GMT)
- Okay, the bot is done with TR3. I'll probably do Stirk tomorrow at some point, since it's in the same boat. I'm on my way to bed, but if anyone <looks at Jeancey tentatively> wants to go through the bot's Results page, and double-check the ones flagged with "sortkey mismatch", that would be helpful. In all cases, the bot assumed the human was correct and left it untouched, but if there are discrepancies, then there's the possibility that either the human or the bot did something wrong. The ones I saw at a glance all looked to be trivial differences in sortkey choice, or just had |noreplace in them, which I never thought to handle, so I suspect most are okay. – Robin Hood (talk) 10:19, 3 February 2013 (GMT)
- There is also one other issue I ran into the other day. If a page is included on another (like Light armor is included on Armor) then the pages that are included need |noreplace}} added to the default sort template. Those are so few, though, that I can probably do them later by hand (as well as any new pages). Jeancey (talk) 00:14, 3 February 2013 (GMT)
- It handles "A", "An", and "The" correctly and should use hard-coded names instead of {{SUBPAGENAME}} for those. It seems most of them have been done already, though, which is why you won't see them in its edit history. – Robin Hood (talk) 00:07, 3 February 2013 (GMT)
- Does it account for articles like "The" in the name? Or should those still be done manually? Jeancey (talk) 00:02, 3 February 2013 (GMT)
Skyrim Classes
Skyrim classes are categorized differently. They are classed under Category:Skyrim-NPCs-Classes, while Morrowind, Oblivion, Shivering, all others are Namespace-NPC Classes. Can someone get a bot to rectify any links in this class to Category:Skyrim-NPC Classes. Silence is GoldenBreak the Silence 00:48, 3 February 2013 (GMT)
- That's straight-forward enough. I'll put the bot on it tomorrow, provided it's done the Tamriel Rebuilt stuff by then. (I'll probably stop and resume the job if it's not done by the time I'm ready to go to bed, cuz the computer's right next to my bed, so there may still be some of that left to do tomorrow.) – Robin Hood (talk) 04:01, 3 February 2013 (GMT)
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Non-Square MW images
This is more of a personal request, and really involves no editing. It's not really a big deal, and if need be, I can do the task manually or just go page by page to do this, but I was curious if retrieving the information from these pages could be automated?
What I want is all the pages here to be read by a bot and then the name of the NPC and their location from the infoboxes compiled into a convenient list that could just be dropped in Cess for me, so that I have an easy to consult list of pages needing attention, rather than going page to page by hand 133 times (134 minus a userpage in the cat) to grab the information. It doesn't have to be a fancy thing either, even just putting a simple list like this would be a great help to me:
Alvis Teri - Balmora, Eight Plates Arsyn Salas - Sarethi Manor Artisa Arelas - The Abbey of St. Delyn the Wise
Thanks. Jo'Sakhar (talk) 04:35, 12 February 2013 (GMT)
- I'm on it. This'll be Wabbajak's first task! • JAT 05:19, 12 February 2013 (GMT)
- Great! It's a relatively straight-forward job, but I probably wouldn't have been able to get to it till tomorrow, cuz I'm in the middle of something IRL right now, so enjoy, Jak! :) – Robin Hood (talk) 06:16, 12 February 2013 (GMT)
Image categories
In a huff over a disagreement in IRC, I added Category:Skyrim-Quest Images to a large number of pages without a discussion ever taking place. Vely has now opened that discussion at the CP, I am requesting that my edits be reverted until a consensus on the future of image categories can take place. Every image I added to the category was an image that was not in the SR-quest-Name.jpg
format, so I would suggest simply removing the category from the 90 ish pages that I added it to by removing the category from any image that isn't in that format. This will return the category to the way it was, so that a discussion can occur. Thanks! Jeancey (talk) 01:10, 15 February 2013 (GMT)
- As this is being actively discussed, let's leave it for now. For a single page, sometimes it is reverted, but with large-scale edits like this, it is wiki policy to let them remain until discussion determines whether or not they should be removed. If it is decided that they should be removed, then I'll take it, if Wabbajak has bot status. I have had no time to work in him, so there's a possibility that he won't be ready in time. • JAT 02:27, 15 February 2013 (GMT)
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- Jeancy: Just to clarify, we're looking at the edits you made (or most of them, anyway) between 22:08, 14 Feb and 23:47, 14 Feb, right? – Robin Hood (talk) 02:48, 15 February 2013 (GMT)
- (edit conflict) ::The issue is that I changed them BEFORE the issue was decided. Wiki policy dictates that it should go back to how it was, before the discussion occurred. The current status of the images could, in fact, be used as an argument in the discussion, so keeping them how they are is misrepresenting the issue.
- Yes RH, that is correct. Jeancey (talk) 02:49, 15 February 2013 (GMT)
- Jeancey may have a point. Anyone else have thoughts on this? Should Jak or I go ahead and do this right away rather than waiting? (PS, my bot's ready to go on this if we want it to.) – Robin Hood (talk) 03:05, 15 February 2013 (GMT)
- While I see no real need to revert the changes, they are Jeancey's edits and reverting them will not break anything important, so if he wants them reverted I see no reason not to revert them. --Alfwyn (talk) 17:48, 15 February 2013 (GMT)
- While I don't see it as an urgent need, I do see Jeancey's point, and since they're his edits and it's his request, I've gone ahead and had the bot revert. (Sorry, Jak, but I know you're in class right now, so I figured you wouldn't be getting to this anytime soon. :)) As with the last time, this isn't a pure reversion, it's only removing the categories, so if there were other changes made at the same time, they won't be undone...the bot's assuming they were beneficial changes made while adding the category. At a glance, it doesn't look like that'll be a concern. – Robin Hood (talk) 20:56, 15 February 2013 (GMT)
- While I see no real need to revert the changes, they are Jeancey's edits and reverting them will not break anything important, so if he wants them reverted I see no reason not to revert them. --Alfwyn (talk) 17:48, 15 February 2013 (GMT)
- Jeancey may have a point. Anyone else have thoughts on this? Should Jak or I go ahead and do this right away rather than waiting? (PS, my bot's ready to go on this if we want it to.) – Robin Hood (talk) 03:05, 15 February 2013 (GMT)
- Jeancy: Just to clarify, we're looking at the edits you made (or most of them, anyway) between 22:08, 14 Feb and 23:47, 14 Feb, right? – Robin Hood (talk) 02:48, 15 February 2013 (GMT)
Another Reading Run?
Hi, it's me again for another reading run. I want a more tangible project to do when I am not fetching images. This time, may I have a table generated on User:Eric Snowmane/Ekem that lists every NPC of every race that is not a redirect in the Morrowind Namespace? A basic sortable four column table Name-Race-Location-Status would suffice. The Status column to be blank, I just like the ability to put a little check mark and keep track of what I've done.
My idea, that I've poked around at on the IRC about, is to have a small project where I will include the gear worn and carried by NPCs who are unique enough to have their own page. I'm not going to create one for each redirect, just pages that already exist as proper pages. I figured if stuff like armor or weaponry worn or carried is useful in the other namespaces, it's not going to hurt to put that consistency into place in the older namespaces.
This isn't a top-priority project that needs to be handled immediately, since I have over 100 non-square images to get better images for already listed, but it's another list I'd like to eventually tackle, since I am manually reading each place, NPC, etc anyway for grammar and whatever on the side. (And, I love lists :D ) Jo'Sakhar➚talk to me 22:58, 21 February 2013 (GMT)
- Okay, I think that should cover it. Sorry for the multiple tries...I was rushing it, which didn't work out well. – Robin Hood (talk) 03:19, 22 February 2013 (GMT)
Magicka on Unimportant MW NPCs
This has gotten quite tedious for me, and I believe there are hundreds more needed. Basically every unimportant NPC in Morrowind needs their magicka added for the {{NPC Data}} template to work. These are almost always redirects which requires extra clicking to edit the page. Silence is GoldenBreak the Silence 02:18, 19 March 2013 (GMT)
- At the moment, I don't have the ability to read Morrowind data. If you're able to compile a list of the page and the magicka, though, I can get the bot to edit the pages quite easily. – Robin Hood (talk) 04:16, 19 March 2013 (GMT)
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- Does it help that the info is already in the tables they redirect to? (it's been correct every time too). Silence is GoldenBreak the Silence 04:39, 19 March 2013 (GMT)
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- That actually might. I'll take a look at it in the next couple of days. – Robin Hood (talk) 05:07, 19 March 2013 (GMT)
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- And done! A lot more than what you asked for, but it made sense to do it while I was there anyway, and wasn't all that hard to add. – Robin Hood (talk) 04:58, 5 April 2013 (GMT)
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- There are no "non-relevant" NPCs on that page, so it wasn't looked at. I'm intending to do the "relevant" ones soon as well, but they're harder to link with the pages they're used on, since there's no redirect. It basically comes down to examining all linked pages to see if they look like they contain the appropriate tables. – Robin Hood (talk) 20:11, 6 April 2013 (GMT)
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MWOP templates
Hey! I have launched my Morrowind Overhaul Project. Any chance one of you could add the templates to the pages? {{cleanup-mwop-npc}} for NPCs with full pages, {{cleanup-mwop-quest}} for quests, and {{cleanup-mwop-place}} for places. I'm not sure if this is the right way to go about adding them to pages, but It is a massive job and I felt people would probably complain if I added them all manually. :) Jeancey (talk) 21:35, 12 April 2013 (GMT)
- For simplicity's sake, I'll be doing them as three separate jobs. The NPCs are underway. I won't be around to monitor it, so if anything goes critically wrong, just post to the bot's talk page and it'll stop. And yes, this is definitely the right way to go about adding them to pages...people would probably kill you if you clogged the RC with adding the template to pages yourself. :) – Robin Hood (talk) 22:56, 12 April 2013 (GMT)
- Thanks! :) I'll create the categories that are needed. Jeancey (talk) 23:05, 12 April 2013 (GMT)
- HnB seems to have broken. It stopped somewhere in the Gs... Jeancey (talk) 23:46, 12 April 2013 (GMT)
- Yeah, it looks like we lost our connection or something, so it stopped. I was able to resume once I got back to my computer. – Robin Hood (talk) 01:18, 13 April 2013 (GMT)
- HnB seems to have broken. It stopped somewhere in the Gs... Jeancey (talk) 23:46, 12 April 2013 (GMT)
- Thanks! :) I'll create the categories that are needed. Jeancey (talk) 23:05, 12 April 2013 (GMT)
Imperial Soldier level info
An anon recently asked why none of the Imperial Soldiers have their level info filled in. Might be a good job for a bot? --Xyzzy Talk 20:51, 6 May 2013 (GMT)
- Done. There are too many changes I'd need to make to my program before it's ready to handle everything, so that was bot-assisted, but a lot of it was done directly by me. – Robin Hood (talk) 01:01, 7 May 2013 (GMT)
Links to headers in archives
I'd like a list of links of headers from all 14 of the SR talk:Easter Eggs archives, with the headers displayed in the links. So, something like this:
- Mysterium Xarxes Returns! (and becomes a bucket when placed under duress)
- I have a bad feeling about this
- Do Not Delete
...for all 300-400 or so sections. Is this possible? Vely►t►e 19:05, 28 May 2013 (GMT)
- Done and posted on the bot's results page. Not sure why it silently failed to save during the first "real" run, but whatever. – Robin Hood (talk) 01:50, 29 May 2013 (GMT)
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- Bah! It's because it's looking for == at the end of a line, but there's a space at the end of the line for those ones. It's an easy fix, but I'm not at that computer right now, so I just did a search on those page instead and added the missed ones by-hand. – Robin Hood (talk) 05:09, 29 May 2013 (GMT)
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Oblivion Construction Set Wiki
Yes, I'm a bot owner, and I'm adding a request to the list. I'm not at the bot's computer, nor will I be for any length of time today, so this is either a reminder for me for tomorrow, or a project for Jak this afternoon. Anyway, what's needed is to convert all the broken constwiki links to the new {{OBCSWiki}} template. – Robin Hood (talk) 22:04, 8 June 2013 (GMT)
Marking pages needing interior maps.
A bot is needed that can accept a list of pages each of which needs the tag: { { NeedsMap } } The list of pages can be made by sorting the current Status Report List on UESPWiki:Skyrim_Map_Design. I would be willing to make that list of approximately 519 pages that need maps, then copy and paste it into an Excel sheet and modify the text to whatever format the bot required. I would then upload a text file for the bot's use. See the talk page for further details and rationale. Thanks for considering this. Kalevala (talk) 23:02, 2 July 2013 (GMT)
- I can do this tomorrow. If you feel like generating the list as a text file, that would save me reformatting the table as text, filtering out the ones that are already done, and figuring out the correct page name for those cases where it's not the same as the building name. All I'd need is each page, with namespace, on a separate line. For example:
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- Order isn't important, as long as they're all there. When you're done, just send it to me by e-mail. (Or, if the wiki won't let you send that much text, just send me a note and I'll reply with my real e-mail address.) – Robin Hood (talk) 03:07, 3 July 2013 (GMT)
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Caption"? That'd save a lot of work for Kalevala, and the few articles that don't have it still need a lookover in this matter. -- SarthesArai Talk 14:15, 3 July 2013 (GMT)
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(←) Sorry guys, energy has been lacking lately so I let this slide for a bit. I agree that we should go with SarthesArai's idea of using a Cleanup-style tag. I'm assuming this would be for interiors only; does anybody have any ideas on how to distinguish which pages are about, or include, interiors, even if already mapped? If I recall, Kalevala's list only included the ones that still needed maps. I can do something with the database, but that's still gonna be rough and probably require a lot of human fixing afterwards. Or we can go with Kalevala's list as a start and then just add or remove as needed from there. Anybody have any thoughts? – Robin Hood (talk) 17:58, 19 July 2013 (GMT)
- I looked into something similar for Morrowind, and I couldn't find an easy way. I ended up going through the ones that seemed likely candidates to not have an interior by hand and marking them as not needing interior images. Off the top of my head, for skyrim, I would focus on all water features (lakes, rivers, etc), all landmarks, all of the standing stones, and some of the towers. The other option is to check the Zone parameter of the page, but that is no guarantee. Jeancey (talk) 18:11, 19 July 2013 (GMT)
- I'm wondering if I should have the bot add "hasinterior" and "hasexterior" flags to {{Place Summary}} or something along those lines. The parameters would do nothing in and of themselves, but they'd make it easier for the bot to fill any future requests along these lines, and if we wanted to, we could create categories based on them or something along those lines. They'd need human checking, though, before they'd be useful. – Robin Hood (talk) 18:49, 19 July 2013 (GMT)
Sandbox 1 Morrowind Generic Dialogue
Can a bot help add to my Sandbox on generic dialogue in Morrowind. I would really appreciate the help in Sandbox 1. Thanks in advance! Guard of DragonsSpeak To Me 12:50, 11 August 2013 (GMT)
- Sorry, I don't have the ability to extract Morrowind data, and I don't believe the other active bot does, either. You'd have to use the Morrowind CS and figure out what's generic from there. – Robin Hood (talk) 21:23, 11 August 2013 (GMT)
- Well then, this will be a lot of work for me to do on my own in the sandbox, as it is LOTS of generic dialogue, not to mention the checking of it all. Are you sure of anyone else that can help me with it? (Jeancey hasn't replied about it, and Velyanthe doesn't have the patience or motivation to add to it, which, I think, is a surprising attitude from a mentor, to be honest.) Guard of DragonsSpeak To Me 21:28, 11 August 2013 (GMT)
- I extracted all the voiced dialogue and sent it to you. I can also send you the rest of the dialogue if you want and pick out certain given categories, but "generic" is not one of them. There are some things you would be able to search for, such as topic like "rumors". However, I really don't want to spend the end of my summer sorting through dialogue, though I am willing to send it to you and help you read it. I can help you do some work (as I have done) and guide you on how to do things (as I can do), but declining a request to work on a large project should not be surprising.
- Well then, this will be a lot of work for me to do on my own in the sandbox, as it is LOTS of generic dialogue, not to mention the checking of it all. Are you sure of anyone else that can help me with it? (Jeancey hasn't replied about it, and Velyanthe doesn't have the patience or motivation to add to it, which, I think, is a surprising attitude from a mentor, to be honest.) Guard of DragonsSpeak To Me 21:28, 11 August 2013 (GMT)
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- In addition, it should be really easy to determine what's generic. Glance over the dialogue I sent you and check for similar parameters; if it says "Altmer", chances are the NPC must be Altmer but isn't a specific one. If it's in category "Hello", it's a greeting. And so on. If you need help reading it, I can help, but it seems you've been getting along fine so far. If you found the parameters which indicated generic dialogue, it could be bot work to pick out those specific ones from a text document, but since you'd probably have to format them yourself anyway, it would perhaps be an unnecessary hassle. Vely►t►e 21:44, 11 August 2013 (GMT)
- Well, what I mean is confusing things, such as this: As an example, for attack taunts, it will say in the CS: Condition: GetPCRace=Nord and the same for result. But for some attack taunts, it will have no conditions on, but it will still say GetPCRace=Nord or something like that. Guard of DragonsSpeak To Me 21:48, 11 August 2013 (GMT)
- In addition, it should be really easy to determine what's generic. Glance over the dialogue I sent you and check for similar parameters; if it says "Altmer", chances are the NPC must be Altmer but isn't a specific one. If it's in category "Hello", it's a greeting. And so on. If you need help reading it, I can help, but it seems you've been getting along fine so far. If you found the parameters which indicated generic dialogue, it could be bot work to pick out those specific ones from a text document, but since you'd probably have to format them yourself anyway, it would perhaps be an unnecessary hassle. Vely►t►e 21:44, 11 August 2013 (GMT)
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Dragonborn books leveled lists
I noticed that Dragonborn:Books didn't have a column for which leveled list they could be found in, so I added it, then noticed that each books individual infobox hasn't had their type defined. Would this be a good job for a bot? --Xyzzy Talk 19:10, 28 September 2013 (GMT)
- It's probably not necessary to involve a bot, but I might be able to extract a full list quickly from my database or Neph's. I'm just off for dinner and stuff for a bit, but I'll look into it in a couple of hours. – Robin Hood (talk) 23:21, 28 September 2013 (GMT)
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Morrowind NPC location dumps
Hey! I was wondering if you could dump all the values that Morrowind NPCs have in the |house= and |store= parameters into my sandbox here. Just overwrite everything that is currently in there. No need to figure out anything about the values, just a straight dump, preferably in table form. Thanks in advance! (feel free to ask clarifying questions :) ) Jeancey (talk) 20:05, 12 November 2013 (GMT)
- Done. They're sorted by house and then store, just because that was the easiest way to remove those that didn't have anything for those parameters. Some of the map links broke when dumping to your user space, but not knowing what you wanted, I left them untouched so that you could see exactly what's in the parameter. – Robin Hood (talk) 21:34, 12 November 2013 (GMT)
Oblivion Factions Updating
As was briefly discussed here three years ago, our faction tables for Oblivion omit plug-in NPCs from vanilla factions. Hopefully a bot can check the NPC pages for the related factions and add them to the table is missing. This could probably be done by hand of necessary. —Legoless (talk) 01:24, 23 January 2014 (GMT)
- I don't have anything setup to read Oblivion data yet. I can pull a list from Nephele's database, though, and send that to you as an Excel sheet. While it'll be a fair bit to add by hand, I don't think it'll take that long. Doing it via the bot would probably take a lot longer than doing it by hand will. – Robin Hood (talk) 02:25, 23 January 2014 (GMT)
ESO Books
Would it be possible to have the bot run through all the ESO books listed in Online:Shalidor's Library and the Online:Eidetic Memory and have it assign the corresponding "collection" info so they link to the respective pages? Any new books/notes I create from now onward I can manually assign the correct collection, but the existing ones need work. Many thanks. --Jimeee (talk) 23:05, 10 March 2014 (GMT)
- That should be relatively straight-forward. – Robin Hood (talk) 02:08, 11 March 2014 (GMT)
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- Okay, apart from forgetting to change the edit summary and having to pause it partway through, it's on its way. You'll have to make sure that the pages it links to get created at some point, if they don't already exist (e.g., Auridon Lore). Also, if the book title is currently a red link, nothing is getting done at all for those. As you say, you can add those as you create them. Let me know if you spot any problems. – Robin Hood (talk) 02:50, 11 March 2014 (GMT)
Online Quest Header
Would it be possible to get a bot run through Category:Online-Quests to update {{Quest Header}} to the new {{Online Quest Header}}? Below is a blank with all the relevant parameters. Where a parameter is identical to one from Quest Header, the entry is usually the same. The only difference I think is SuggLevel, which just becomes Level. Oh also, Trail can be wiped from them, as it's included in the Online Quest Header. Thanks! --Enodoc (talk) 09:26, 20 March 2014 (GMT)
{{Online Quest Header |type= |image= |imgdesc= |description= |Zone= |Faction= |Icon= |Obj= |Giver= |Loc= |Prereq= |Prev= |Next= |Conc= |Reward= |XP= |Level= |Journal= }}
- Just a quick clarification: should all the parameters be added as empty parameters (like you have above) if they're not already there? I think that's what you meant, but better to make sure so I don't have to do a second run to fix things if I'm wrong. – Robin Hood (talk) 21:10, 20 March 2014 (GMT)
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- I was about to say "that's done", but I just realized, I forgot the trails. Bah! So much for not doing a second run. – Robin Hood (talk) 03:39, 21 March 2014 (GMT)
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- The trails are underway now as well. As an added bonus, it's doing them as intelligently as I was able to do in a few minutes, which means main, side, and alliance quests should all be done properly as long as the Trail was done to begin with; everything else will be moved into the Zone parameter. After it's done, a human will have to figure out the guild quests and move the Zone parameter into the Faction. – Robin Hood (talk) 04:14, 21 March 2014 (GMT)
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- Oh, and if it makes sense for the parameters to be in a different order or all lower-case/title-case, that's very simple for the bot to change globally. It's currently using the order you specified above (the same order it created most of the quests in) with no concern for case, but it wouldn't take more than a minute or two for me to change that if desired. – Robin Hood (talk) 04:36, 21 March 2014 (GMT)
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Online Journal Entries and Quest Objectives
Hi there, could I get a bot run through Category:Online-Quests to change {{Journal Entries}} and {{Quest Objective}} to {{Online Journal Entries}} and {{Online Quest Objective}}, respectively? The parameters of the Quest Objective are essentially the same, while the Journal Entries has one less column (the Stage column is removed). Thanks! --Enodoc (talk) 09:46, 5 April 2014 (GMT)
- Just a note that I've already updated Soul Shriven in Coldharbour to test it out, and it works as expected. If it's easier to run the bot without having an exception, feel free to revert that edit. --Enodoc (talk) 09:54, 5 April 2014 (GMT)
- I'd like to see Wabbajak do this, as we need to be sure that it can do more complex tasks as there is likely to be a large amount of botwork for ESO as we get settled and add info/change our minds about things. Jeancey (talk) 16:14, 5 April 2014 (GMT)
- I've got my bot working on the pre-release tags on empty pages right now anyway, so I'll wait to hear from Jak whether he wants to handle this or not. – Robin Hood (talk) 16:58, 5 April 2014 (GMT)
- I'd like to see Wabbajak do this, as we need to be sure that it can do more complex tasks as there is likely to be a large amount of botwork for ESO as we get settled and add info/change our minds about things. Jeancey (talk) 16:14, 5 April 2014 (GMT)
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- Okay, all done! I had a couple of minor slipups - my programmer thought it would be a good idea to feed a regex character into a regex equation (sometimes I wonder how I work at all), but it looks like everything else is in order. Feels good to stretch my legs again after months of idling! Wabbajak (talk) 23:51, 5 April 2014 (GMT)
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(←) I just had a look at a couple at random, and it looks like you didn't quite get it on at least one...perhaps because it had no content? – Robin Hood (talk) 01:06, 6 April 2014 (GMT)
MW/BM Images
Not all of these images are consistent with the format that has been adopted. Files should be [[File:MW-item-xyz]] or [[File:BM-item-xyz]] with spaces between words (I believe the ones that need spaces look LikeThis). A few are armor pictures with the gender variations (contain a M/F in the name), these should probably be spelled out as well (Male/Female).
Is that clear enough? Am I missing anything? •WoahBro►talk 04:30, 18 April 2014 (GMT)
- Blech! The inconsistencies in naming make this rather difficult to do by bot, but I'll have a look at it tomorrow and see what I can do. – Robin Hood (talk) 04:54, 18 April 2014 (GMT)
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- <Armor>F LF gets converted to <Armor> Female L Female
- No space around the & in the one file that has one
- Besides those, do you see anything else that's either outright wrong or could be improved in some way? – Robin Hood (talk) 04:34, 19 April 2014 (GMT)
- Okay, I had the bot put up a tentative list of what names it wants to change. There's a couple that I've noticed are incorrect:
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- Not sure if I'm reading your post right, so just to be sure: the bot will do the moves and update all the links appropriately. I just need you to skim over the list to see if there are any problems with the names it's proposing. – Robin Hood (talk) 05:14, 19 April 2014 (GMT)
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- Okay, just wanted to be sure you weren't planning on actually moving the files yourself for some reason. It sorta sounded like you were somehow. – Robin Hood (talk) 05:51, 19 April 2014 (GMT)
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(←) Terribly sorry about the wait, I got caught up with finals at school and then completely forgot about editing the tentative list in my sandbox. Anyways, I got approximately 50% through the list tonight and should be able to have it ready for the bot in a day or two (for real this time!) •WoahBro►talk 04:30, 12 May 2014 (GMT)
- Finally done with the fixes and are ready to move. They can be found here. Thanks! •WoahBro►talk 15:55, 15 May 2014 (GMT)
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- I'm taking the rest of the day off after the current bot run, but I'll have a look at this tomorrow. – Robin Hood (talk) 20:43, 15 May 2014 (GMT)
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- Okay, the dry run has pointed out two problems. Once those are dealt with, I can do the real run. If I don't hear back from you by this afternoon, I'll just make up my own new names so we can get the job going. – Robin Hood (talk) 15:22, 16 May 2014 (GMT)
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- Warnings from dry run
- Page :File:MW-item-Ebony Weapons 02.jpg could not be moved to File:MW-item-Ebony Weapons.jpg because destination already exists.
- Move to MW-item-Ebony Weapons 02.jpg
- Page :File:MW-item-Glass Weapons 02.jpg could not be moved to File:MW-item-Glass Weapons.jpg because destination already exists.
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Page File:MW-item-LeFemm Armor.jpg could not be moved to File:MW-item-LeFemm Armor.jpg because destination already exists.Not sure why this is happening, it's the same file and doesn't need to be renamed.(Updated since I started fixing.)
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sr to Skyrim: function
I know most people are busy with ESO at the moment, and not sure if a bot can be used to do this, but there are still a lot of pages that seem to have links with [[sr: at the beginning instead of [[Skyrim: - so if it is possible, when time permits could this be done? It's not a high priority, but would save a lot of time and remove the issue in one go, otherwise the sr's will probably be around forever. I can't think of any instances where [[sr would be used correctly or want to be kept, so there shouldn't be any exceptions. Thanks. Biffa (talk) 06:03, 19 April 2014 (GMT)
- The problem is in tracking them down. That's not particularly easy. Why do we need to change them? As far as I know, SR and Skyrim should work the same; it's just a question of how it looks. – Robin Hood (talk) 06:30, 19 April 2014 (GMT)
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- The issue isn't with finding uses of it within a page, it's knowing which pages to check. If you're looking for pages within a category or pages that link to a particular place, for instance, it's pretty easy to find, but for this you'd have to comb both the entire Skyrim namespace and every single page that links to the Skyrim namespace, the latter of which would be very difficult to determine. For something that's simply cosmetic, it's simply too much work for too little a reward. • JAT 08:29, 19 April 2014 (GMT)
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- Doing unrelated generic edits while actually working on something else isn't a skill my current bot has, but it's planned for the next version. – Robin Hood (talk) 01:28, 20 April 2014 (GMT)
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ESO Skill Redirects
I believe we should have redirects in place for each skill name in ESO. This would mean going through each skill line and creating a new redirect for every named skill that links to the section within which it is contained. So for example, Online:Silver Bolts would be a redirect to Online:Fighters Guild#Active Abilities. Or optionally the skill names could be made into Linkable Entries and then the redirects would point to exactly the right spot. -- Hargrimm(T) 01:13, 20 April 2014 (GMT)
- I had a look at the various info, and I think that should be doable. I should be able to work on it tomorrow. – Robin Hood (talk) 02:46, 20 April 2014 (GMT)
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- Unfortunately, DotNetWikiBot (which is the thing that does most of the actual communication with the wiki) is buggier than an ant colony, so I was warned about most pre-existing pages, but some I wasn't. Either way, here's the list of all pre-existing pages that conflict with a skill name. I'll let you decide what's appropriate here, presumably either a disambig page or an {{About}} template.
- Balance (both Mages Guild and Two Handed)
- Consuming Darkness (Shadow)
- Drain Essence (both Draconic Power and Vampirism)
- Emperor (Emperor)
- Executioner (both Assassination and Two Handed)
- Greater Storm Atronach (Daedric Summoning)
- Hireling (both Enchanting and Provisioning)
- Twilight Matriarch (Daedric Summoning)
- Volatile Familiar (Daedric Summoning)
- Woodworking (Woodworking)
- Also, Storm Calling (and possibly others) had linkable entries in it for each name. I discovered the inconsistency mid-run, so had the bot be consistent in the redirects it created and pretend there was no LE (i.e., linking to the section, not the specific entry). – Robin Hood (talk) 00:46, 21 April 2014 (GMT)
- Unfortunately, DotNetWikiBot (which is the thing that does most of the actual communication with the wiki) is buggier than an ant colony, so I was warned about most pre-existing pages, but some I wasn't. Either way, here's the list of all pre-existing pages that conflict with a skill name. I'll let you decide what's appropriate here, presumably either a disambig page or an {{About}} template.
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ESO Quests and NPCs
Hey RH, could you add all the quest and NPC data we have so far? Silencer is getting antsy and I don't think he really WANTS to be creating over 10,000 pages by himself so.... :) Jeancey (talk) 02:03, 11 May 2014 (GMT)
- I was thinking that would need to be done again sometime soon. I'll have a look at it tomorrow. Last time was easy, cuz there was little to no pre-existing data. This time may be a bit more challenging. – Robin Hood (talk) 03:33, 11 May 2014 (GMT)
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- The bot has added a {{Trail}} to some pages, which is not required as Trail is part of the Online Quest Header.
- It is sometimes adding things which aren't Zones to Zones.
- It is occasionally adding Zone names to Locations (which is not required).
- Enodoc (talk) 23:16, 15 May 2014 (GMT)
- I'm aware of them all. RH doesn't know about the trail yet, cause he had to go, but the others have to do with the data, and we weren't sure the best way to deal with it yet... They all need human intervention to double check. Jeancey (talk) 23:28, 15 May 2014 (GMT)
- I've taken care of the Trail issue for future runs and the bot is working on removing the existing ones. As Jeancey says, we're aware of the issue with the zones, and it's something we'll have to work with more to fix. – Robin Hood (talk) 00:01, 16 May 2014 (GMT)
- I'm aware of them all. RH doesn't know about the trail yet, cause he had to go, but the others have to do with the data, and we weren't sure the best way to deal with it yet... They all need human intervention to double check. Jeancey (talk) 23:28, 15 May 2014 (GMT)
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